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Re: I finally get the perfect lead in.... SoCalGirl #53978 09/26/08 09:27 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,391 B-town Eastside, CA MooseTracks Member
MooseTracks Member Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,391 B-town Eastside, CA	Don't make me get out my thesis on the physiological mechanisms of C-fibers... Flickr Pics Think outside the Zone.

Re: I finally get the perfect lead in.... DocRodneydog #53980 09/26/08 09:43 PM
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DUG Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 417 Wildomar	Originally Posted By DocRodneydog DUG67 put down the heating pad and ice 15 minutes every hour. Try to get up and walk around,stretch and move. It hurts to get started but you will feel better with ice and movement than heat and laying around. Heat feels good on the muscle but almost all back pain is neurologicly induced and the ant-inlfamatory effect of ice is WAAAAAAY more therapeutic. Good gawd man, you sound just like my wife! Besides, the Valium feels WAY better than the heat or the ice!!! I quit taking everything except for Motrin this morning. I think I'm about 65% now.........................................DUG Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time. ~Steven Wright

Re: I finally get the perfect lead in.... MooseTracks #53981 09/26/08 09:45 PM
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DUG Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 417 Wildomar	Originally Posted By MooseTracks Don't make me get out my thesis on the physiological mechanisms of C-fibers... Will it make my back feel better?.........................DUG Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time. ~Steven Wright

Re: I finally get the perfect lead in.... MooseTracks #53983 09/26/08 09:48 PM
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DocRodneydog Member Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 612 Santa Clarita	Originally Posted By MooseTracks Don't make me get out my thesis on the physiological mechanisms of C-fibers... Break it out and we can discuss it. There is way too much research discussing neurogenic low back pain to blame LBP on muscles. Muscle pain is usually secondary to nerve pain.

Re: I finally get the perfect lead in.... DocRodneydog #53986 09/26/08 10:09 PM
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MooseTracks Member Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,391 B-town Eastside, CA	Completely agreed, although it is quite the chicken vs. the egg type of thing. Which came first: nerve irritation or mechanical irritation of a defective/degenerative tissue? My thoughts here would include, however: 1) What is serving as the trigger of the neurogenic pain (mechanical basis)? 2) Why is it sensitization of C-fibers occurs at such different rates? I always found it most fascinating that changes occur all the way up the chain, including the horns of the spinal cord, which, as Chris mentions above, will indeed make pain 'all in your head'! PS: And it would be a much more interesting discussion than the other blather. Flickr Pics Think outside the Zone.

Re: I finally get the perfect lead in.... MooseTracks #53989 09/26/08 10:58 PM
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DocRodneydog Member Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 612 Santa Clarita	Now you are getting technical let me dust of the synapses of my memory. Current research states that the nociceptors(pain sensitive fibers) send messages to the brain via the spinal thalamic chain of the posterior horn I believe. These pain messages in turn cause the brain to send message to the muscles telling them to splint and guard, thus becoming hypertonic.(Dang do I sound smart now?) The nociceptors are fired by noxious chemicals which are the result of poor spinal mechanics and lack of dynamic movement. I now put this topic to rest...lol Chris and Laura you may be correct that this is a mental problem hence why the meds are working Last edited by DocRodneydog; 09/27/08 04:39 AM.

Re: I finally get the perfect lead in.... DocRodneydog #53990 09/26/08 11:01 PM
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DUG Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 417 Wildomar	Originally Posted By DocRodneydog Chris and Laura you may be correct that this is a mental problem hence why the meds are working Um, did you just say I have a mental problem? The meds are working because they make me sleep and nothing hurts when I sleep. ....................................DUG Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time. ~Steven Wright

Re: I finally get the perfect lead in.... DocRodneydog #53991 09/26/08 11:02 PM
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SoCalGirl Member Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 748 Spring Valley, CA	Whoa there Charlie Brown.. way to many big words for me "The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes." -Marcel Proust

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