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I am a clydesdale at 6' 5" Clydesdale, LOL. I see you're coming from Kentucky. by the way, I don't mean that in a derogatory fashion, I like horses "-) and great granny is from Russelville.
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Does the quoted weights on the tarp tents include the hiking pole and the stakes you need to use to set them up? No. As a comparison, the weight of the Black Diamond Lighthouse without stakes, poles, or stuff sack is 35.625 oz. Equal sized Tarptent is 34-40oz. The SixMoon Designs Duo is 39oz without a floor. That was a deciding factor for me. I liked the full tent concept better - plus I don't use trekking poles, so the Tarptents and SixMoon designs kind of fell of the list pretty quick. I tried some of the one man tents like the PCT/Sprite, but they were pretty much just large bivy sacks. I basically wore it. Sitting up, my shoulders touched side to side and my head was bent forward to fit. As noted by most, it's personal preference. I like the single wall design. Less to pack, lighter, full tent.
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Recently I took two shelters, a TarpTent for the trailhead and a LightSabre bivy for the trail.
I had two thermometers, one inside with me, another outside. The nighttime temperatures inside and outside were the same using the TarpTent--which makes sense, given all the mesh. But the temperatures differed by 10 degrees when using the bivy.
This meant I could get by with a 40 degree bag in the bivy while I needed a 30 degree bag in the TarpTent. That saved several ounces, plus a little space, in the pack.
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As a comparison, the weight of the Black Diamond Lighthouse without stakes, poles, or stuff sack is 35.625 oz. Equal sized Tarptent is 34-40oz. The SixMoon Designs Duo is 39oz without a floor. That was a deciding factor for me. I liked the full tent concept better - plus I don't use trekking poles, so the Tarptents and SixMoon designs kind of fell of the list pretty quick. The Duo is 39 oz WITH a floor. The Lighthouse per the BD website is 3 lb 3 oz, 12 ouncdes more. The Tarptent Cloudburst is also 39 ounces. Sizes are all similar. Granted, these all have a lot of mesh, so they may not be as warm as a solid wall tent, but a single wall tent with no mesh can have a lot of condensation. Don't matter to me, I use some older ultralights that are no longer made.
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The Duo is 39 oz without poles. The Lighthouse weighs less without its poles. What do a pair of hiking poles weigh, about a pound? Poles included the Lighthouse weighs less and its poles fold up to a smaller and more packable size than hiking poles do.
Of course if you hike with two hiking poles tents that rely on them are more weight efficient. Otherwise they are not.
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As a comparison, the weight of the Black Diamond Lighthouse without stakes, poles, or stuff sack is 35.625 oz. Equal sized Tarptent is 34-40oz. The SixMoon Designs Duo is 39oz without a floor. That was a deciding factor for me. I liked the full tent concept better - plus I don't use trekking poles, so the Tarptents and SixMoon designs kind of fell of the list pretty quick. The Duo is 39 oz WITH a floor. The Lighthouse per the BD website is 3 lb 3 oz, 12 ouncdes more. The Tarptent Cloudburst is also 39 ounces. Sizes are all similar. Granted, these all have a lot of mesh, so they may not be as warm as a solid wall tent, but a single wall tent with no mesh can have a lot of condensation. Don't matter to me, I use some older ultralights that are no longer made. I did read the description wrong on the Duo. It does include a floor and 6 stakes. My mistake. However, for direct comparison of weights - the Lighthouse weighs 35.625 oz without poles or stakes - as weighed on my digital counter scale. Add in 2.875 oz for 6 stakes = 38.5oz. Lighthouse = 38.5 oz Duo = 39 oz For those not using trekking poles, it's a valid comparison. All single wall tents will have some condensation. However, my use of the Lighthouse includes 2 nights of intense rain and a few nights mid winter. Condensation was light considering the conditions - but much less than what I experienced with the Mountain Hardware EV2. The Lighthouse - and lighter siblings in the BD line make for good 4 season tents (at least in the Sierra).
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