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#435 01/24/03 06:54 AM
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Does anyone have pictures past the notch to the summit. The last time we skied the mountaineers route we made it to the notch and got blown off by a storm. I've never made the summit from mountaineers route, and couldn't see beyond the notch. Is it possible to ski off the summit to the couloir?
We are hoping to ski it on Wed. the 29th.
Thanks in advance,

Brian.

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Go to my "Whitney shots" album at

http://members12.clubphoto.com/robert634908/943486

Look at the 3rd row, first picture. For an image without the routes drawn in, see the 2nd row, last one. Also, next-to-last one.

Click on any one for a larger image, click "View Full Image" for a really big one.

Not being a skier, I can't say if one can ski off the summit. But it's pretty steep, and I know of at least five fatalities of people who have fallen between the notch and the summit.

Bob

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Thanks Bob, your pictures above the notch have been very helpful. With enough snow I think I'd rather ski off, than walk off it!! I hate down climbing. We are taking a 7mm rope that we use to ski on belay, so perhaps that's what we'll do. Thanks again.

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Bob R -

Great pictures!

Do you know if all the fatalities were under winter conditions? Has anyone fell when the route was free of ice and snow? Thanks!

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The pictures from the air were taken from a NPS helicopter. It was obviously in the Sept/Oct/Nov time frame, and I recall about 3 - 4 years ago. They were trying to find out more info. on a guy who had fallen from that section.

The episodes tend to blur together, but at least two of the cases involved crampons (like the climber was wearing them, or had them in his pack suggesting that he expected snow or ice). Some people fell from the section between notch and summit, but some fell doing the so-called easy "walk off", which can be extremely dangerous when covered with snow (after the snow hardens).

They end up at about the 13,000' level in some rocks, after having plunged over a vertical 200' cliff. It's messy.

I don't recall fatal falls during full-on winter, when there is good snow to step-kick up. Also, many winter MR climbers take ropes. As inferred above, at least a couple of the fatalities involved ice. But I remember two during summertime; there might be ice in that section, but it's easy to avoid, so it's puzzling. The exact mechanism for slipping/tripping/sliding is probably never known for sure.

Doug has these helo pictures in his store, and the Lone Pine Ranger Station has them posted.

These helo pictures make it look really steep, but it isn't nearly that bad. The one I took looking down from the summit, paints a more realistic picture. It's the one showing people coming up. The whole section is really barely class 3, and a lot of it is class 2. My first time up it was in 1972 and I took my 10 year old son - I put a rope on him only for about 50' near the top. Now that I am familiar with the route, I wouldn't bother with it. (Although at the time my wife was happy I took it!) Actually, it must have been less than 50' because the rope was a 50' piece of 1/4" goldline)

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Thanks Bob, I could never visualize the area above the notch. We are planning a day hike trip around 8/1. Our plan is go as far as we feel comfortable, the summit is not our ultimate goal this summer. We've never done this type of high angle or class 3.

Bill


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