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#1498 04/25/03 03:26 AM
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Hi i am planning on making a trip to complete the rest of the 14ers that i haven't climbed so far in june-july. I was wondering if permits are required for all 14 of the 14ers in the owens valley area including: starlight peak, thunderbolt peak, middle palisade, north palisade, muir, tyndall, langly, russel, split mountain, white mountain peak, and polemonium peak. any advice would be much appreciated because if i need to get the passes for them i need to reserve them now...thanks
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#1499 04/25/03 03:49 PM
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You could hike Langley, Russell, and White mountain in one day without a permit. Muir would require a Whitney zone permit for a one day hike. Langley, Russell, and Muir on an overnighter would require an overnight permit. Don't know about the others. Up by Williamson, Tyndall you are entering the Big horn sheep area, so there are some restrictions about when you can be there.

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You don't need permits for the Palisades peaks as far as I know- we never have.

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No permit needed for White Mtn. either.

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Each of these 14ers can be dayhiked, in which case you don’t need any permits. Of course, a day permit is required year-around for Whitney/Muir, but this is a simple self-issue one if you go outside of the quota season.

Except for Starlight, I’ve done them all as dayhikes, in fact several times each for most. The longer ones (Williamson, Split, Sill, N Pal, T’bolt) were pretty much dawn-to-dusk affairs so take a headlamp, just in case.

My personal list of 14ers doesn’t include Starlight or Polemonium (although I’ve climbed them). How can one include these bumps on a ridge and not Keeler and the other needles south of Whitney, which are much more prominent bumps? And the horns of Williamson? I may be in the minority on this subject, but...well...that’s one of the nice things about mountaineering - we are each allowed our own ideas about what to climb, and how to count them.

Another idea on the 14ers is to climb each in winter, and I have two to go: Russell and Middle Pal. But this is off your topic.


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