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#77004 06/03/10 08:04 PM
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I am headed up Tuesday I am wondering if a ice axe and crampons are needed right now.

bbk302 #77005 06/03/10 08:05 PM
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Yes they are!


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bbk302 #77006 06/03/10 08:06 PM
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read this trip report from Monday

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bbk302 #77013 06/03/10 09:28 PM
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Thanks for the input.

bbk302 #77018 06/03/10 10:45 PM
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I'll see you in the parking lot then! I'm heading down Monday.

bbk302 #77029 06/04/10 02:56 AM
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I don't know bbk302. It depends how comfortable you are on snow. I went without ice axe by accident as mine somehow escaped below Trail Camp. Truthfully , I did not miss it for this climb (although I do miss it for sentimental reasons as we have been through a lot together). I found crampons helpful, but honestly think that my trekking poles were more beneficial than an ice axe in these conditions. I realize that self arrest is iffy with poles, but quite frankly think that an axe would not be necessary on a fall in the chute as it isn't that steep, and would not save you falling off the crest anyway. Therefore, I did not miss it.

DISCLAIMER: My opinion only and everyone's strengths differ so others may not share that opinion. Works for me.

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There were two places were I felt an ice axe was incredibly helpful on this trip: 1) enabling me to glissade down from trail crest (not safe without an axe). 2) I used it along the ridge after trail crest as i could plant it very securely in the snow. I might not have been able to stop a fall with it, but it definitely made me feel a lot safer there.

Crampons, however, I think are indispensable for a while longer.

bbk302 #77062 06/05/10 12:51 AM
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Anyone know where you can rent crampons and ice axes in the SF Bay Area?

--John


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