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According to the NY Times, apparently, a very smart bear in the Adirondaks is gaining easy access to a "Bear Vault 500". I understand that this is the state of the art in bear protection. Here's the article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/nyregion/25bear.html?hp

Do any of our local Sierra bears have the same aptitude? If so, what additional precautions should we take?

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Thats funny....Thanks for the story

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Western bears. A few years ago one of my best friends & his son camped near Cathedral Falls on the Grand Canyon of the Toloume.

Two bears lurked in the woods, observing until the luckless humans did the technical part for them, then trundled over & grabbed the food.

Maybe not smarter, but a titanium vault with a lock is still not proof against this sort of cunning.

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I remember stories back in 2002 about smart bears around Marcy Dam. At the time, there was a steel cable strung across the river below the dam. It was a good 20' off the riverbed, and mama bear would send baby bear shinnying out along the cable to bite through the rope holding your bear bag or chew through the bag if you had clipped a 'biner to the cable.

We camped farther up the trail, just below the 4,000' no-camping zone, and nobody bothered my Garcia bear can that year.

Let's just hope "Yellow-Yellow" doesn't hop a bus out to the Sierra and start training the bears out there!

Come to think of it, my buddy who used to live in the Bay Area told a story about a trip in the mid-70s from Tuolomne Meadows down to Yosemite Valley. He had strung his bear bag way up from three different trees. Heard something in the middle of the night and stuck his head out of the tent. Shone his flashlight out and saw a black bear standing under the bear bag trying (unsuccessfully) to reach it. Then my buddy made the mistake of checking his ropes. Bear followed the flashlight beam to tree[1], tree[2] and tree[3], said "thanks" and proceeded to walk over and chew through all three ropes to drop the bag. My buddy said it was a hungry hike down to the Valley...

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They're not so smart. I saw a bear at the trail head with a sign that said: "Hungry. Need quarter or screudriver." He couldn't even spell screwdriver right.

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Originally Posted By burtw
They're not so smart. I saw a bear at the trail head with a sign that said: "Hungry. Need quarter or screudriver." He couldn't even spell screwdriver right.


OMG Burt thats hilarious!!!!


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We were camped next to a Boy Scout troop about 30 years ago somewhere in the Sierra National Forest. They decided not just to hang food bags, but their whole packs (which were smaller in those days). They found a sturdy tree and hung fifteen or so packs on a single big limb. We were awakened in the night by shouting. A bear was sitting on the limb hoisting packs up one by one, absolutely destroying them then moving on to the next. They were a sight hiking out the next day.


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