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#45531 03/17/08 10:10 PM
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Hello.
I have a few questions regarding why some BLM's are charging us to stay now. For the past three years I've noticed that some BLM's (Tuttle Creek and the one by Crowley Lake) charge $5/night.
They used to be free, or so I thought. Does anyone know why some are charging and others are not? When I talked to the host at the Tuttle Creek BLM he told me that improvements were made (fire pits, etc.)and that was the reason for the $5/night charge. I've also stayed at Big Springs and Horton Creek BLM which are much nicer, and they don't charge. Or, at least they didn't last year. I don't know about this year or the future.
My understanding was that our tax dollars help pay for the maintainence and any other expenses. So, why do some charge and others don't? Who determines this at the BLM? Someone at the Department of Interior or is it local? I just thought that camping at a BLM was supposed to be free, no matter what one you stayed at. But, I guess those days are gone forever.
One last thing. I tried in June 2007 to stay at the Bishop Bowl BLM (stayed there three years ago for free) but it was closed. Very strange. I went up there expecting to see a bunch of people like I saw five years ago, and there was noone. Just a sign saying, "BLM closed. Go to Crowley Lake BLM and pay $5/night." I didn't. Stayed next door for $10. Does anyone know if it's going to remain closed indefinitely?
Any insight anyone has to my questions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again,
Greg Lukenbill

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Horton Creek cost $5 last year. Used to be free, they've been charging for the last few years. Big Springs is not a BLM campground, it's in National Forest.

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I feel stupid to ask but what is a BLM?

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Originally Posted By DocRodneydog
I feel stupid to ask but what is a BLM?
Bureau of Land Management. I believe they're the largest landholder of public lands.

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Greg, this is strictly an issue of finance.

The BLM continues to suffer a series of reductions of finance, while at the same time taking on more and more responsiblities.

The alternatives are what you have seen: either impose fees for use, or shut down areas that cannot be managed (as required by law).

This is simply an issue of fiscal policy. As long as the American public supports a policy of progressively reducing taxes, there will be less money for budgeting.

We have the same thing in California, where there is now a crunch to shut things down, to keep the state solvent. Everyone has their favorite thing. And there is huge conflict.

I get people who ask me to support parks that will be closed, while at the same time I'm getting asked to lobby for the cuts that will occur for health care for poor children. I don't see anyone lobbying for increasing fees for those parks, which arguably an "extra" in life, not an essential, like breathing.

It comes down to choices, and what we want to pay for. If we don't want to pay taxes, then we won't get "free" gov't services, which of course are not free, just paid by taxes.

The various agencies are in true crisis at this point.

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Ken,
I am going through a similar situation at my job. I'm a special ed. teacher in Corona and I've been told that our district alone will be negative 16-18 million dollars for next school year. As well as every other district in the state. That means that a lot of new teachers and other programs will not be there next year. Very sad.
Thanks for your knowledge and insight about the BLM's.

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Oops, you're right. I looked in my AAA book and saw that it is U.S. Forest Service land.
Thanks,
Greg Lukenbill


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