Mt. Whitney Portal Store & Hostel Forums General Mt. Whitney Portal Store Message Board Ebersbacher Ledges photos

Some while back (like last year), someone posted a series of photos of the Ebersbacher Ledges and how they could reach them by staying on the North Side of the North Fork (of Lone Pine Creek on the Mountaineer's Route). I've been through that area on 2 separate trips and I still have no idea where exactly the approach refers to (the south side approach works fine so this is more curiosity than anything.)

Anyway, despite spending a lot of quality time with Google, I can't find the pages and it's a great series of photos of the ledges (lots of detail which helps a lot), so I'd love to know of its location.

Ellen Clary

Go to www.clubphoto.com and enter "Bob R" where it asks for an alias (don't put in the quotes). I think the pictures you are looking for are in the 5/19/02 Thor Peak album, middle of the second row, on the first page.

I did copy the E. Ledges sequence over into the first album (0 Whitney Miscellany), since quite a few people seem to look at that one - I assume for route ideas.

On just about every climb up the North Fork, I take pictures of this section, so a lot of my other albums have pictures, also.

Oh I should have known it was you.

May I use this photo on my website if I give you full credit?

We used a different path for the backpacks. We handed the backpacks down the pink path and then each of us went down the blue path. Felt a lot safer that way. (Going up the blue path with backpacks was ok though.)

http://www.frap.org/Images/MtneersRoute/E-Ledges.jpg

I don't see an easy way to include the photo here so I just put a link in.

Ellen

Thanks very much.

I've included it on my page that talks about our Mtneers Route mini trip which can be found at:

http://www.frap.org/Misc/Mountaineers_Route.html

This also includes the funny now, but wasn't that funny then Verizon Wireless Hell story.

Ellen

Thanks for the write-up and photos ellenclary..and of course Bob R for his excellent photos..they are really helping me visualize the route. With my girlfriend being a bit nervous about the E-Ledges (much like the Narrows on Longs Peak) I'm considering taking up Bob's suggestion of perhaps raising and lowering our packs on a length of rope.

Thanks again for the photos and the marked up pictures of the routes you guys took..it helps!

BeachAV8R

I did them on 8/7 by following the instructions in Doug's book.

BeachAV8R, I did Longs (Keyhole route) on 7/26 and the MR on 8/12 and now can compare the two. There was some snow in the Trough on Longs, and so I stayed left (north) to pick a route on rock. On the MR we stayed left (south) on the couloir to avoid some scree and stay on rock as best we could. I would say the MR couloir is much looser than the Trough, and so took a little longer. Whatever climbing route you pick on the chute after the notch will be a little steeper than both the Trough and Homestretch on Longs, but in my opinion no harder.

I don't believe your girlfriend will be bothered by exposure on the MR if the Narrows was her more memorable part on Longs. There is nothing "worse" on Whitney. My hiking partner and I did hand our backpacks down to each other at the last little drop on the e-ledges, from the pine tree to the bottom. But that was because we were tired and it was almost dark and the packs were a little heavier this time. I haven't felt the need to do that before.

Both hikes were a lot of fun. Even though Long's is about three times the distance of the MR, I personally found the MR a bit more tiring because it's steeper. Take your time and have fun.

ellen - I was just looking at your pictures and clicking on some of the thumbnails to look at the larger version. Clicking on the thumbnail next to the narrative that begins "Bob Rockwell was nice enough ..." brings up the large version of the picture just above that (with the narrative that begins "Now the fun begins."). You may want to check this out. Thanks.

CaT

Thanks for the input Marc...Longs was a blast..since you've been there you might want a copy of our DVD that we made about our trip to the top..it is free..just drop me an e-mail at beachav8r@carolina.rr.com if you'd like a copy of it...and the link below is our trip report up Longs:

http://home.carolina.rr.com/beachav8r/longs.html

Thanks for the comparisons between the MR and Longs...it helps give some perspective..!

BeachAV8R

Thanks california-trailwalker I've fixed the link so you should be able to see the larger version of Bob's photo now.

http://www.frap.org/Misc/Mountaineers_Route.html

Ellen

For your amusement. A treatise on how not to climb Mt. Carillon.
(One of our day hikes).

<http://www.frap.org/Misc/wrongridge.html>

This is an adjunct to

http://www.frap.org/Misc/Mountaineers_Route.html

How odd, doesn't look like the url showed up.
Here it is again:

http://www.frap.org/Misc/wrongridge.html

From your "wrong ridge" trip report:

>>That peak in the distance is not named and deserves one.<<

Corrections welcomed, but it looks like Lone Pine Peak.

>>If you're serious about climbing a particular mountain, bring extra batteries for the GPS! [Lithium recommended as they are lighter and more temperature tolerant and last longer], and bring a compass if all else fails, and this is of course assuming that you have a map.<<

Personally, I think you have it backward. Unless you already have experience doing the route, bring a map and compass no matter what; bring GPS [if you even have it or use it] *only* as a backup [although it seems unlikely that the map's batteries will ever fail :-) ]. In route finding, if the technology fails [and the potential is always there that it will] and you haven't learned how to route find without it, you get lost.

I'm curious if, on your climb, you had a hard copy with you of the next-to-last image in your journal [the topo map with the blue line drawn showing the correct route].

CaT

You know now that you mention it that does look a lot like Lone Pine Peak which means that the photo is facing 180 degrees in the other direction and that I grabbed the wrong set from the camera. (The rocks in the foreground threw me off.) I'll take another look at the photos.

Thanks to you both for the info and I've edited the page to reflect this.

I'm wondering if it was Gambler's Special that I was looking at. Is that small wash between it and Carillon? (The wash starting at approx. 118d 16.3'W and 36d 35.7'N)

Oh and one small correction to my previous post, the view of Lone Pine is 90 degrees to the right of where I was looking, not 180. (The things that occur to one after the computer has been turned off.)

Ellen

>>The things that occur to one after the computer has been turned off.<<

LOL! Been there, done that!

CaT