So 3 of us cancelled going to Whitney this weekend because of weather, then went on today and it looks good like they got little snow. So I'll wait to here from Richards report if he went up today..
So I wanted snow and a summit. Didn't know how much San Jacinto got but knew they got some. I was surprised at how low it was on the trail, they didn't get much but the views were nice and it was fun.. 33deg. in parking lot at Humber Park and 27 on summit and 32deg. in Hut.
Fred 65yrs young did the C2C2C from the floor to summit in 6hrs 31min. he was with a meetup group out of 6 only 2 finished Fred and Chris. In August Cat B. went with him and a meetup group to Whitney and he ran up to the summit and ran down.. It was nice to meet him..
Hi Hey how was the wind ? Very strong up here Saturday.
Bears still moving around in the foothills now and doing damage, seems like the main problem is older and very large. He was at Doug's area all night and people stayed up chasing it away. I think he tore the back window off my shell but could of been wind, no track or slim marks on the truck , nothing in the truck but we haul trash in it so would have the smell. This bear went around Tuttle Creek Campground during the summer and was not afraid of people so stay clear if you are camping and the bear comes around.
Hi Hey how was the wind ? Very strong up here Saturday.
I was in the Palisades this past weekend and the wind was howling up there on Saturday day and night. We had gusts that easily hit 60mph.
Originally Posted By Hikin_Jim
The Jetboil I had with me kept blowing out.
I don't know of many stoves that are windproof without a windscreen. What would happen if you added a windscreen to that set up? The best stove sans windscreen I've used is the MSR Reactor. That special integrated pot seems to fit on the stove well and shields wind. It's also a great stove at high altitude. I've used both the Jetboil and Reactor at 19,500' on Aconcagua. The Reactor never went out because of wind and I'm amazed at how quickly the Reactor boils water at this elevation. The Jetboil worked but took much more time to boil water.
I don't know of many stoves that are windproof without a windscreen. What would happen if you added a windscreen to that set up?
Hi, Kurt,
Good approach, but a couple of "gotchas" if you're not careful: 1. If you completely surround the burner, you'll trap a lot of heat and potentially melt some of the plastic components. Don't ask me how I know this. You might also damage the valve system which could have some pretty negative downsides (like an explosion, worst case, or possibly just rendering the stove inoperable). 2. Since the stove is mounted on top of the canister, it's kind of tall. A standard sized windscreen (like for MSR XGK and Whisperlite stoves) won't be enough. So, you have to bring a fairly tall arrangement which can tend to be kind of floppy and a pain in the neck in real wind.
But a windscreen or some kind of rock wall will help. In conditions like what you were experiencing in the Palisades, I think a Jetboil just wouldn't be a very workable choice -- which brings me to my next point: Why I was performing these wind tests in the first place. I was trying to get a sense of how much better (if in fact it is better) the new Windboiler stove from MSR is in wind. Basically, the Windboiler didn't even notice that it was windy out.
Originally Posted By Kurt Wedberg
The best stove sans windscreen I've used is the MSR Reactor. That special integrated pot seems to fit on the stove well and shields wind.
Yeah. Which is kind of why I find the new Windboiler interesting. It's basically a Reactor type stove for $60 less.
Originally Posted By Kurt Wedberg
The Jetboil worked but took much more time to boil water.
That lines up well with my experience. In still air, I found that the Jetboil was faster than a Windboiler, but introduce a light breeze, and suddenly the Windboiler and the Jetboil become equal -- in terms of time. The Jetboil is however not equal in terms of fuel; it's using more fuel to boil the same amount of water. Introduce a stiff breeze, and the Windboiler is faster. In a heavy breeze, I couldn't get the Jetboil to boil water at all because it kept blowing out.
You might also damage the valve system which could have some pretty negative downsides (like an explosion, worst case, or possibly just rendering the stove inoperable).
I was trying to get a sense of how much better (if in fact it is better) the new Windboiler stove from MSR is in wind. Basically, the Windboiler didn't even notice that it was windy out.